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UFWDA General Discussion => UFWDA WHEEL-IN => Virginia Wheel-In 2008 => Topic started by: Eric Hilbert on November 26, 2007, 06:52:22 pm

Title: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Eric Hilbert on November 26, 2007, 06:52:22 pm
Does anyone know what the "extreme" trial will be like for the Wheel-In?  At Camp Jeep last year I did Trail A and B.  Our club is interested in coming down for the Wheel-In, and I want to make sure we are on the right trails?  Everyones definition of "extreme" is differnt.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on November 26, 2007, 07:41:02 pm
If you did the A and B trails at Oak Ridge for Camp Jeep, then you know those trails were ranked as part of the "difficult" trails for Camp Jeep.  They were designed as 2-3 hour trail rides maximum for Camp Jeep, using stock vehicles with "stock" drivers. 

We plan to run the Oak Ridge Loop for the Wheel-in, which is a combination of all the 17 trails used at Camp Jeep, so your A and B trails are included.  We plan to start everyone at different points on the loop, wheel as much of the loop as you can on Day 1, pick up where you left off on Day 2.  Do not expect Tellico, Rausch Creek, Crozet, Wind Rock, etc.  God did not bless us with such terrain on the eastern slope of the Blue Ridge.  ::)  Some consider Oak Ridge on par with Uwharrie.  There is plenty of bark at Oak Ridge, and plenty to bite you there as well.  ;)

If you've not visited any of the places mentioned above, PM me and I'll do my best to describe Oak Ridge.
Does this help at all?
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Eric Hilbert on November 26, 2007, 07:58:27 pm
Thanks for the reply!  This helps!  The only reason I brought it up was on the registration there's a spot for easy,hard...extreme trail choice.  We all want to be on the same trail as a club.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on November 26, 2007, 10:43:03 pm
I saw that on the registration form too.  I'm sure we'll do our best to accomodate you all in a group.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Matt Coffey on November 30, 2007, 08:16:27 am
Yes Chris the trees at Oak Ridge do bite back don't they lol
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But that was a great spotter  ;D
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on November 30, 2007, 09:21:23 am
But that was a great spotter  ;D

I'm guessing you'll never let me foget, huh? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: BEN WOOD on November 30, 2007, 12:04:59 pm
Your suppose to keep all four wheels on the ground :) A little fiber glass is all it needs :) Thanks for the loaner winch.

Heres a shot of the Membership Director making Bobs Creek look easy during the 07 Jamboree
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: UFWDA Forum Admin on November 30, 2007, 12:33:12 pm
I'm guessing you'll never let me foget, huh? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Chris just remember "...the spotter is always right, the driver just wasn't listening".  Take it from a professional.

- Shawn

Notes: Definition of professional "I tried it once and lost money... but still had to pay taxes to do it."
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Matt Coffey on December 01, 2007, 09:55:48 am
Chris I have already forgotten about it just trying to show how those trees bite back at Oak Ridge  ;D
 and Yes the spotter is always right .... it is the driver who needs to learn the spotters right and left not the drivers  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Eric Kohl on January 15, 2008, 01:51:50 pm
Talking with someone about this and it go me to thinking.  When I signed up, I was planning on bringing my not-so-stock Scrambler, which while road friendly isn't something I would necessarily drive the 450 miles each way so it gets trailered.  Then I got to thinking that I could just drive my Grand Cherokee up and probably have more fun since it is stock except for the 2" BB and winch, thus making just about everything a challange.   ;D

While I remember most of the trails as doable with the Grand, seems like I remember some sections that would be a bit much for the Grand.  Plus, I haven't yet made all of the trails.  Am I being crazy for even considering the Grand?

Now, if it's wet and rainy, it'll be the Scrambler without hesitation.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on January 15, 2008, 02:02:07 pm
I think the Grand will do more than you think (all but the largest rock obstacles) and I agree you would have more fun in it.  Plus it will be a way to show off your superior driving abilities.  As for the wet weather, I've seen stockers stay on the trail while the double lockered vehicles slide sideways into the brush.  I vote for having fun in the Grand.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: BEN WOOD on January 15, 2008, 02:43:45 pm
Im in the same predicament, wheel a stock no frills 1968 CJ-5 with 31x10.5 Goodyear GSAs  and tow hooks or if the trails will be a little nasty, a YJ with 33x12.5 trxus and a winch. HMMMMM :)
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Jerry Bliley on January 15, 2008, 03:26:11 pm
I guided CJ last year some in my WJ, outfited pretty much like yours liftwise.  It did fine.  I even took my stock comanche out on a work weekend last year with no worrys.  I vote for the Grand.  Show the rest of them how it is all skill that gets you down the trail, not the size of your checkbook or rig.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: dds4x4 on January 15, 2008, 05:23:35 pm
Wheel the WJ, they do just FINE!
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Eric Kohl on January 15, 2008, 06:28:18 pm
I'm pretty confident on what the WJ will be able to do since my first wheelin jeep was a ZJ on 3.5" lift and 31s.  The WJ with the BB has almost the same ground clearance, just no armor.   Haven't actually wheeled it yet, but have played on a few hills.  Guess I'll just wait and let my mood swing decide which one I bring, that or my wife can choose if she comes with me.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Josh Howery on January 16, 2008, 02:43:12 pm
Im in the same predicament, wheel a stock no frills 1968 CJ-5 with 31x10.5 Goodyear GSAs  and tow hooks or if the trails will be a little nasty, a YJ with 33x12.5 trxus and a winch. HMMMMM :)

Ran our CJ5 with 31x10.50 BFG ATs open/open through all the trails there for the last 2 years.  Only tugged once (it was wet and raining).  I think I am bringing my 7 on 33s and locked this time... :D
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Bruce Taylor on January 16, 2008, 10:54:23 pm
 >:(

Are you guys that good of drivers or are the trails all that easy.
I do not want to drive for 32 hours to ride arounf a Wal Mart parking lot.

MuDusty
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Norm Ralston on January 17, 2008, 03:48:41 am
Relax Bruce, Oak Ridge is good times.  ::) Search "Oak Ridge Jeeps" on YouTube or Google, you'll see.
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on January 17, 2008, 07:28:02 am
Hi Bruce,
Talk to some of your fellow Wisconsinites(?) who guided for us at Camp Jeep 2007.  They have seen the trails and can hopefully compare them to whatever you've run at home. 
Another question, did you help work on the Camp Jeep 2006 trails in Wisconsin?  I can help with a comparison there. 
No need for angry eyes, isn't wheeling (anywhere) more fun than staying home?
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Josh Howery on January 17, 2008, 03:14:11 pm
Bypasses and go-pedals!   ;)
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: John Caliri on January 24, 2008, 09:41:18 am
If when we registered for the Wheel In we marked Difficult, but reading this want to upgrade to Extreme, is that OK.  It sounds like maybe everybody runs everything anyway... is that correct?

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Chris Boucher on January 24, 2008, 11:38:55 am
Yes sir you are correct.  Everyone will basically be running the entire trail system (time permitting).  So your quest to upgrade will be answered...then taken away so to speak on the easy trail portions of the property. ;)
I'm not sure where/how the trail rating requests got into the registration.  I am assuming since this is the first of hopefully THOUSANDS of United Wheel-ins, they were preplanning for those venues who can realistically offer a true trail delineation like that.  I will guarantee you have a good time at Oak Ridge at this inaugural Wheel-in.  If the trails turn out to be to easy for you, you can always be thankful there is nothing to fix when you get home.  You can put your rig away knowing it is ready to go on your next trip. ;D
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: admin on January 26, 2008, 10:54:45 am
Maybe I can clear up this issue...

I placed the trail rating on the registration just so there would be some indication of the type of trails you like to ride, or what your rig is capable of. This was only meant to generate statistics for the organizer of the event and help with organizing trail rides. The ratings were not meant to be related to any particular trail(s) at the venue.

Hope that helps.

-Milt
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Eric Hilbert on January 26, 2008, 07:31:56 pm
Go to Youtube and search for "CJ-5 Hill" one of the more "xtreme" sections. 
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: Michele Fenwick on January 29, 2008, 02:14:31 am
I've had a couple of scarey moments at Oak Ridge.
Here's one:

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I'm tellin' ya..the photo doesn't do it justice. 
Title: Re: Trail Ratings for the Wheel-In
Post by: John Caliri on February 06, 2008, 08:35:50 am
 ;D Pictures never do justice!  Sounds like there will be plenty of chances there to pucker up a bit!  My rig is by no means extreme, but I do like a challenge... I like the easy sections too.  Closing in on 2 months away... I am excited and ready for a little vacation!

John