I understand that you think you are helping and I am willing to take the criticism from you. However, I ask that you please give our member Gregg Jackson, the courteous of not insulting him when he has given lots of actual man hours to assist despite having a family, a full time job and is the land use director for VA4WDA. Gregg Jackson has been extremely supportive of UFWDA and has never done anything but give UFWDA 100% support.All I ask is that you please keep your negative comments directed to those of us that are paid employees.
Insulting him? I pointed out false statements he was trying to present as facts. Is this insulting? We all have families, we all have full time jobs. We're all land use volunteers, and we're all supportive of UFWDA. Why is VAFWDA so much more important than every other group that is a part of UFWDA? Where are the negative comments?
As far as that black and white version of the Voice, I am not sure that you are looking at the whole picture. When you are selling ad space to a business, the first question that they ask is whether or not it is in full color. In addition, I am not sure that you are understanding the full concept of the revenues that would be lost to ad revenues. Where do you suppose we make up the lost revenues from ad sales that we would incur from converting to a black and white mag?
I am fully aware of these factors, and others which you may or may not be familiar with. As noted, I've dealt with these exact issues previously on several occassions.
The bottom line is that you may need to know about an organization and the full details before you can make accusations that we are not open minded or are not willing to take help when we ask for it.
Please make note of any instance where I have used a false premise about UFWDA.
The mere fact that every attempt to point out solutions is met with a solid front of denial and faith in the currently failing policies seems to support any assertions that there might be some close-minded people involved in the leadership of UFWDA.
Also, you have refused help, but you will not explain why. You asked for help. I offered to help work on the 75% unfulfilled business pledges. You refused my assistance.
However, if it is a poor business decision based on a limited knowledge of the actual facts it would be irresponsible for us to do so.
I disagree with you, so the only explanation must be that I don't have all the "facts"? As requested previously, please note where I have misstated any "facts".
In addition, we are taking advise and help from other members, like Gregg Jackson, who are 100% supportive always and are just asking what they can do rather than trying to tell us how to run the business.
Hmm, I wonder why you keep pointing out that others are "100% supportive". Does that mean they never question your conclusions? Does that mean they support UFWDA 100% as a member. I'm a 100% supporter of UFWDA. Since joining I've always paid 100% of my dues and a little extra.
If you're suggesting I'm not "100% supportive" because I won't sign-up every 4x4 user in Utah as a member of UFWDA, then I have to tell you that it's not my job to get members to UFWDA. That's part of what you are paid to do. As I've suggested, give people a tangible reason to join UFWDA, and they will. Don't just blame the members and claim "they don't understand" if you don't get what you think you deserve.
Again I will remind everyone that I have offered assistance and that assistance has been refused. I have offered to contact unfulfilled business pledges, and I have offered to include the UFWDA membership request letter and reply piece in the next U4WDA magazine. Both requests have gone without response.
It turns out that is much more productive and let us hope that he continues to support us after being insulted on the forum.
Based on my professional experience, I believe you have drawn some incorrect conclusions in explaining falling member support for UFWDA and furthermore I believe that there are many operational areas within UFWDA where significant improvements can be made to ensure the health and long-term viability of the organization.
If that's "insulting" then you should not be involved in any business on any level.
Do you plan to attend SEMA? If so, please stop by the booth so we can discuss these issues face to face. Sometimes on the internet I think it is easier to get carried away then when you are actually looking at a person and how hard they are working for you.
You aren't working for me. I stand by everything I have ever posted on this forum. Based on the facts I know about UFWDA, there are opportunities to improve performance and effectiveness through tactics alternate to your proposals. I have explained my reasoning with rational backup. The response from Carla and yourself has been that you're working hard and that I don't have all the information. You'd be surprised by the similarities between all non-profits and especially low-budget groups. Same problems, same roadblocks to reach solutions.
As far as what you can do to help, my proposal to you is that prior to selling ad space, which is not where we need help, I ask that you sell memberships to your own association. That is what I was implying in my previous note when you responded about your consulting business. What I was asking, and perhaps did not make clear, is that business and ad sales are fine, what we need help with us full roster support from state associations. If you are willing to help then can you please get your membership to come back with their full roster or at least sell some actual memberships. If you can not convince Utah members to come back at $22/member, how will you sell a $5,000 membership to a business, it is the same concept. There is little difference between membership sales and business sales in the skill set that you are using.
"Business and ad sales are fine"?
This all started with the statement that 75% of business pledges are unfulfilled. We also know that the magazine loses $40K/year. Based on that, it is very clear that business and ad sales are very far from fine. Is anyone else confused by these statements?
I know what you meant when you asked me to bring you all the members. I guess you don't know what I mean when I say that you need to give these potential members a reason to join.
"There is little difference between membership sales and business sales". Wow. Further indication of problems.
I appreciate you keeping the negative comments directed to the paid staff in the future and I am sure that you did not mean to insult a member who is putting in actual man hours to help.
Again, wow. I'm trying to put in man-hours to help, but you keep ignoring that. Why? What do you have to gain? Don't worry, you could've taken 30% of the advertising I sold.
As it is, I cannot support an organization that employs a commission-based fundraising strategy. It has also been the official position of the U4WDA BOD not to support such practices either. Since I'm just finding out about this, it means that we cannot contribute anything to UFWDA next year until the policy is changed.
If this is how you and Carla respond to other professionals who are capable and willing to offer a unique set of skills for UFWDA's benefit, then there's no need to explain why UFWDA is having trouble. Why is it that you and Carla are protecting your playground in such a way that you want to prevent others from helping you build your sand castle? That was rhetorical on my part, I know the gist of the answer. I've seen it many times before. Despite the undoubtedly exceptional efforts both of you put into UFWDA, your attitudes in response to these discussions have revealed part of the source behind UFWDA's support problems. In almost every consulting engagement I've been involved in, finding and removing the purveyors of these attitudes is usually the top priority. Organizations can't succeed with this type of closed, protective and exclusive culture. I can recommend a great book called Silos, Politics and Turf Wars.
Please respond if you are able.