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Title: trail design help
Post by: Gregg Jackson on September 14, 2007, 07:05:53 am
I am not sure where or who to go to with this. I am the land use coordinator for the VA4WDA. I have been working with the GWNf in our area for a couple of years now trying to form a relationship with them. We have finally got the oportunity to take a trail that is considered and ATV/OHV trail and really design a good quality OHV trail out of it. The reason that they have agreed to this is the fact that the wat it is now, there are no real obsticals on it, so therefor people are making there own in areas not designated for it. So my pitch to them was to let us put some obsticals in the trail to limit the amount of illegal damage.
If anyone has some helpful info on designing this trail, we would love to see it. This is the first project like this we have been given and we want it done right so we might have more in the future.

My contact info,
Gregg Jackson
804-928-5537 cell
Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Melissa Simmons on September 14, 2007, 08:40:40 am

Did you get your last copy of the Voice (3rd Quarter)?  There is an _awesome_ article in there from the guys up in Montana about JUST this subject--including some step by step how to's and what not to do's.  I am on the run at the moment, so don't have the copy with contact info in front of me.  I'm hoping someone who has the issue in their hand can put up those details for you.

Please keep us posted on this topic.

Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Gene Ockert on September 14, 2007, 09:40:48 am
The story was from Rob St. Clair, from the Mission Valley Skyliners Club. Rob would be the person to contact. I'm sure he would love to give you all the info. He is the Past President of UFWDA, his email: pastpresident@ufwda.org.

Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Todd Ockert on September 14, 2007, 10:17:34 am
Without looking at the trail, or knowing the terain, I am not sure.

But if you can get some rocks and trees as obstacle, that would help to increase the difficulty level.
The more natural they are, obviously, the better.

I am not an expert at this by any means, but I think with a meeting of the minds, we can figure out what would be good. for everyone on this trail.

Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Gregg Jackson on September 14, 2007, 10:56:34 am
Thanks for the info. I will contact Rob right now.

The obsticals arent really the issues. Its more errosion control, barrakading off sensative area's, as well as management issues, and how to control misuse. I want to address as much as possible in my proposal.

Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Rob St. Clair on September 17, 2007, 10:18:31 am
Greg, I have replied to your e-mail, sorry for not getting to this sooner, I have been so buisy at work I have not been able to visit this forum. I will try to call you this evening.
Rob St. Clair
Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Todd Ockert on September 17, 2007, 10:50:08 am

I am sure the obsticles can also work as errosion control at the same time.

Logs and rocks also work as barracades, other then some people see them as obsticles also.

If you look at the 3rd quarter voice, and my article on the rubicon work weekend.
We built two fences so it was obvious the area behind the fence was off limits.
They were of the "A" frame style fences and made of logs that we pulled out of the woods that had all ready fallen.
Not that we propose putting up fences, but nothing else had worked in the area.

Title: Re: trail design help
Post by: Dan Stepnik on October 21, 2007, 01:55:04 pm
Our club is also now looking into obtaining private lands to use. It is sounding like others in our area are also pursuing this route rather than deal with all the politics of public use. Is it possible to get a copy of the article? Would this be something that UFWDA and maybe Tread Lightly could develop into a training program?

Dan Stepnik
NEA Delegate for Cape Cod Jeep Club